As you read this, a Lawrence jury is reviewing the facts in the case of Kristen LaBrie, a mother who made the decision to stop giving her 8 year old son the cancer treatments doctors told her he needed to fight the disease. He died in 2009.
She is charged with attempted murder, child endangerment, and assault and battery. There are some who think she has suffered enough. A prosecutor told the jury that she did not feel one bit of responsibility for the death of her son. She stopped the treatment because she felt the side effects would kill him. This is not the case of a 78 year old man whose wife told him she’d had enough and it was time to die in peace. This is a 9 year old kid, who looked to the adult in his life for the guidance and care he needed to fight an awful disease. And what does he get? A mother who disregards the advice of doctors and denies him his treatment.
There is every reason for this woman to be found guilty. He should have been given the treatment he needed so his body could fight. There was an 80-90 percent chance he would have survived if she didn’t take it upon herself to decide he could do without his medication. That is criminal.
No one knows what really motivated Ms. LaBrie. There was testimony about her resentment of the boy’s father and his lack of involvement in raising their son. We’ll never know unless she tells us what role, if any, that played in all of this. We do know, however, her son had a better than good chance of surviving and she denied him that opportunity. For that, she should go to jail for a long time.
It really bothers me she seems to show no remorse. I would never withold the meds but you would think she would be crying for the loss of her son,she seems so cold. Its too bad the father died in a motorcycle accident recently and cant be here to make sure justice is served. Very very sad.
Let me play devils advocate with you Hillman. Disclaimer, this scenario is not a representation of any real case, nor is it necessarily my own opinion on the issue. That being said. A woman, carelessly has unprotected sex and gets pregnant. She decides on her own to abort. Her doctor advises her that the child has a 95% chance of living and literally can not decide for itself. It is a definite life form but can not yet sustain itself on its own. She again decides to abort. That is perfectly legal. To end any chance for that being to live life before it even has a chance. Now think again about this case. She knows her son. She is given a CHOICE. She may have chosen poorly, yes, but she was given a choice. Shouldn't it be more appropriate to indict the system that gave her the choice? If it is illegal NOT to continue the treatment, why was she given the choice in the first place? Isn't this a form of de facto entrapment?
I don't often agree with your perspective or opinion Greg, but I do here. If it's someone on death's door and their agony is being prolonged then that's one thing. Neglecting your child's medication needs is deplorable. I have seen families deal with serious child illnesses and no doubt that it's difficult. Not giving your child their medication is deprived and torturous.
There are many unanswered questions here, I do think you have made a rush to judgement and for that your opinion can be tossed. Im sure the jury will convict her on something but attempted murder I believe is an overreach by an overzealous prosecutor. Imnot defending any decision Kristin made to stop the boys drugs, but til you walk in someones shoes, you should shut your mouth.
The boy's' father was a UPS delivery driver he came to my dad's business 3-5 times a week. He was a good guy and he loved his son a great deal. The whole situation tore him up and when he finally died it crushed him those of us that knew him were amazed that he didn't lose it and go after her cause most of us wanted to. She belongs in jail for as long as our law allows for the crimes shes charged with. Eric joined his son in heaven 7 months later due to a motorcycle accident hopefully they are happy but for their families they deserve justice for her irrational irresponsable acts.
She should go to jail and if it ever comes time that she needs Medical attention they should deny her any treatment and she how she likes it....
As a disabled Army vet, I understand the whole "the side effects are sometimes worse than the problem itself" and that you just get tired of treatment after treatment. But you don't just give up on something that could have easily saved your son/daughter's life! "There was testimony about her resentment of the boy’s father and his lack of involvement in raising their son." that sounds an awful lot like motive to me.
Anything less than guilty would not only be an injustice to the kid but it would also send a message that it is ok to withhold treatments from your children no matter what.
SO NOW YOU FANCY YOURSELF AN ONCOLOGIST?
AS CRUEL AS THIS CASE SEEMS ON THE SURFACE, NONE OF US KNOW THE REAL CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHY THIS CHILD PASSED AWAY. ALL WE KNOW ARE THE MEDIA ACCOUNTS OF THE CASE. BEFORE BUYING INTO THE PROPAGANDA OF AN EGO-MANIACAL, SELF-SERVING FRAUD LIKE GREG HILL,SOME PERSPECTIVE IS IN ORDER. I SIMPLY CAN'T STAND BY WHILE THIS IDIOT DISTORTS THIS ISSUE, TO PROVE HIS BANKRUPT ARGUMENTS. IT IS TOO EMOTIONAL AN ISSUE FOR ME.
THIS CONSERVATIVE FRAUD WILL RAIL AGAINST THE HEALTH CARE BILL THAT PASSED IN MARCH 2010, YET CAN'T GET IT THROUGH HIS THICK SKULL THAT THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ARM, IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE DELIVERY ARM OF HEALTH CARE. HOWEVER CONVENIENTLY, CONSERVATIVE FRAUDS SUCH AS HILLMAN, NEVER WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT, WHILE THEY GET ON THEIR SOAPBOXES AND STATE THAT THEY DON'T WANT "THEIR" TAX MONEY GOING TO FUND A HEALTH CARE BILL.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIES EVER TO BE FORCED UPON CANCER PATIENTS IS THE MYTH OF CHEMOTHERAPY. HAVING LOST TWO LOVED ONES TO CANCER, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT CHEMO IS POISON, AND IN MOST CASES, IT DOES MORE HARM THAN GOOD. ARE THERE CASES WHERE CHEMO HAS REVERSED THE EFFECTS OF CANCER, AND IN SOME CASES PUT THE DISEASE INTO REMISSION? YES...AS LONG AS THE PATIENT IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE THE DISEASE DIAGNOSED EARLY, AND THEY ARE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. THE LONGER THE PATIENT IS ON CHEMO, THE HIGHER THE PROBABILITY IT WILL LEAD TO SUCH THINGS AS ANEMIA, AMONG OTHER ILLNESSES, ESPECIALLY IN THE CASE OF A PATIENT THAT HAD OTHER AILMENTS EVEN BEFORE UNDERGOING CANCER TREATMENTS, AS IN THE CASE OF THE CHILD IN QUESTION IN THE KRISTEN LABRIE CASE.
LET ME ALSO STATE THAT THE "80-90 PERCENT" SURVIVAL RATE THAT IS QUOTED, HAD THE CHEMO CYCLES PROCEEDED, IS CRAP!. DOCTORS WILL OFTEN CITE STATISTICS SUCH AS THOSE, BUT THE TRUTH IS, MOST OF THE TIME THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM THE DRUG MANUFACTURERS, AND NOT FROM PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY TREAT PATIENTS. OFTEN,DEPENDING ON THE FORM OF CANCER A PATIENT HAS, AND HOW FAR ALONG THE DISEASE HAS PROGRESSED, THE DOCTORS THEMSELVES ARE, TO BORROW THE CLICHE, SIMPLY "THROWING THINGS AGAINST THE WALL, AND SEEING WHAT STICKS". THERE ARE SCORES OF CHEMO DRUGS THAT DOCTORS CAN PRESCRIBE, IN AN EFFORT TO BUY TIME, UNTIL THE CANCER EITHER FINALLY, MIRACULOUSLY, GOES INTO REMISSION, OR THE PATIENT SIMPLY CAN'T TAKE ANYMORE, WHICH AT THAT POINT, IS USUALLY TOO LATE.
IT SHOULD ALSO BE STATED, FOR THE RECORD, THAT WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY WHERE THERE IS NOT EVEN A TEST FOR A DISEASE SUCH AS OVARIAN CANCER, WHICH KILLS SCORES OF WOMEN EACH YEAR. PERHAPS, IF A STEM CELL BILL WOULD HAVE BEEN SIGNED BETWEEN 2000, AND 2009, MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, ADVANCES MIGHT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST OVARIAN, AND OTHER FORMS OF CANCER. HOWEVER,"SAVING" EMBRYONIC CELLS, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DISCARDED ANYWAY, WAS FAR MORE IMPORTANT TO "RELIGIOUS" CONSERVATIVES.
TO FURTHER ILLUSTRATE THE DELUSIONAL NATURE OF THESE"COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVES", THEY DON'T WANT A HEALTH CARE BILL, YET THEY VIEW USING EMBRYONIC CELLS FOR MEDICAL RESEARCH, RESEARCH THAT QUITE POSSIBLY COULD HAVE PREVENTED PEOPLE FROM DEVELOPING AILMENTS SUCH AS CANCER AND DIABETES, AS "TAKING A HUMAN LIFE".
THE ABOVE ARE TWO MORE POINTS THAT BIG MOUTHED CONSERVATIVE FRAUDS SUCH AS HILLMAN, NEVER WANT TO TALK ABOUT... CONVENIENTLY.
PLEASE HILLMAN, STICK TO WHATEVER THE HELL IT IS THAT YOU KNOW.
If you can be accused of murder for making a medical decision for your son/daughter, then everyone who has an abortion should be accused as well; especially people like Obama who even accept the after-birth abortions.
This is horrible. As a mother you should want to do anything to protect your child. By denying your child treatments that could save their life is ridiculous. I have no idea how this mother could do this. As a future mother I have no idea how she could have done this. An 80-90% chance is better than a <20% and I'd take that chance if it was the only way to save my child.
this is comin from a guy who sees the facts from the states point of view! and has no idea what really took place with the issues at hand! u are quick to throw stones without all the facts and the position this woman was put in by her ex husband, doctors,the disease ,the circustances and the fact that jeremy was sick from the moment he came out of the womb! she put her whole life on hold for 8yrs to take care of that kid who need 24/7 care and attention! and dealin with an ex husband who when asked to help her get to the hospital for one of jeremys appointments in a snow storm when her van with no heat was broken was told to "take the bus" and when after almost a yr staright of livin in the hospital with him, finally Eric for once told her he would spend the night at the hospital for her, ended up at the bar across the street!! she went above and beyond to care for that boy!! bottom line is he was a sick, fragile kid! the medication took a huge toll on him! where not talkin about a normal 8yr old this kid was weak from the begining and that medicine took a toll on him worse thatn a normal child! i would of done the same thing if the chemo was makin my child deathly ill! on top of that Eric is the one who stopped any futher treatment that that could of saved his life!! he could of had a bone marrow transplant but Eric dident even meet with the trasplant team to disscuss the options he just said forget it! so where the criticisim for that????? he thro his final chances out the window with out even a disscussion! and thats ok????? bottom line is this woman was delta raw hand and stepped up to the plate, she might have slipped but she dident bail!! and she loved her son enough to not want to watch him suffer anymore! and this is what she has to deal with???? she strong she get thro it im sure! u people have not won, u have just shown ur ignorance to a delicate situation!!
hillman, you are a moron. keep drinkin the koolaid provided by the drug companies. and check your facts. chemo has an extremely low rate of success. it is more inhumane than other treatments. it's best use is making drug companies richer. go back to nazi germany along with the district attorney and jurors who convicted this person. idiot americans.
this poor boy was severely autistic, god bless him now, he's in a better place i hope....I just wondered what he could have possibly done to be born severely autistic and then to get cancer....he couldn't talk his mother was torn.......god bless her andthe rest of all his love one involved in the case......its too bad the hard facts were never discussed
Greg your willingness to give the government more and more power over people is disgusting. This lady is the exception. Most parents do the right thing when it comes to raising their children. Now this ruling has made it ok for the government to prosecute you if they dont like the way you do things. So next when the liberals in the school system decide that when you send your kid to school with a bag of chips in his lunch instead of an apple, it is bad for him, can they come arrest you? you keep tobacco products in your house. what if your kid got to it? you have put him in danger. 3 to 5 years will teach you not to dip. you should understand the slippery slope thing with liberals by now. that lady is wrong in denying her kid the care that doctors THINK would save him. But ATTEMPTED MURDER?? seriously?? the doctors are wrong half the time anyway. but now your willing to send people to jail based on their treatment plan. I thought you rolling over and allowing the TSA to grope your children in the name of "the government knows best" was bad enough. now this..
Good job Greg. keep handing over more and more power to the government. I'm sure they will handle the power responsibly..
DO YOU EVN KNOW WHAT THE HELL IT IS THAT YOU'RE SAYING? IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT YOU DO, COULD YOU ENLIGHTEN EVERYONE ELSE?
Now this ruling has made it ok for the government to prosecute you if they dont like the way you do things.
YOU REALIZE THAT HIS CASE STEMMED FROM THE CHARGES THAT THE CHILD'S LATE FATHER BROUGHT AGAINST KRISTEN LABRIE, RIGHT? THE COURT WAS GIVEN THIS CASE, AND THE JURY CAME TOA DECISION. YOU MAKE IT OUT LIKE THE GOVERNMENT WAS HIDING IN THE BUSHES OUTSIDE THE LABRIE RESEDENCE, PEERING INTO THE WINDOW, MAKING SURE THAT THE LETHAL CHEMO DOSES WERE ADMINSTERED. IF YOUR ABOVE STATEMENT IS NOT CONSERVATVE PARANOIA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.
you keep tobacco products in your house. what if your kid got to it? you have put him in danger.
YOU SERIOUSLY DON'T SEE THE DANGER OF CHILDREN GETTIG INTO TOBACCO???...THEN AGAIN, YOU ARE A HILLMAN CULT FOLLOWER, SO SCRATCH THAT QUESTION. I KNOW THE RESPONSE, CHAPTER AND VERSE.
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